The AA flow is a long shot and could take year before the first group of pilots outside of the 824 get to go. BK, at AA could happen. The Eagle spin off (I've had my opinion that it might not happen) and it actually might not happen. Everything has always been about pilot contracts. The Eagle spin off has as much to do with the AA pilot contracts. For those that are not at Eagle yet, right after AMR announced the Eagle spin off they approached the pilots and are trying to extend our industry average contract for the next decade. Our contract becomes amendable in 2013 and there is allot of uncertainty on the supply and demand of pilots at that time, management understands that we (pilots) will probably have leverage and will demand a better contract. The AA contract controls what happens at Eagle with regards to SCOPE. The AA SCOPE is so tight that AMR wouldn't gain anything by outsourcing. AA has said it will not give in on SCOPE (we will see what the end result is). Movement on AE, We have projected 1,000 Pilots going to AA in the first 1,600 pilots they hire. Something drastic would have to happen for this to be affected. That is 2/3 of captains at AE. This should create movement. AE is being proactive (late but they are doing it) they are hiring like crazy and have stopped vacancy bids. They have stopped vacancy bids because of the new contract extension they are trying to signed that would reduce training events (jumping from aircraft to aircraft). AE lost around 250 captains to AE in the last year but have hired over 2 times that amount of FO, and are continuing to do hire. Make no mistake is in the best interest go the company to send as many pilot to AA as possible. Please realize that we have a 4.5 year upgrade time, but most captains that are under 10 years of seniority are sitting on reserve (very senior pilot group). We should see allot of movement coming up, we could see parking of aircraft and we could see flying outsourced. We will know more when the AA pilot contract is signed.