Sadly, these are the guys who make up the majority of the reps, the administration, and the committees. And recalling them is an overly simplistic, easier-said-than-done "solution." This kind of thing is well entrenched at DALPA. These guys are savvy politicians who know how to fight their political power battles effectively. They also know that a big percentage of our pilot group is not really paying that much attention. Without a massive change in involvement of the average line pilot, I don't see how this problem can be fixed. Sorry to be a "Debby Downer."