Originally Posted by
TheManager
ACL- We all want restoration of our contract. The loan and sacrafice that we have given this company in their time of need has to be reconciled with. A pay raise on top of that would be nice. As a minimum, we have the nothing less than SWA crowd arguing with the DALPA acolytes, as they try to manage expectations down, over trip pay and w2's.
C12K is a an emotional and angst ridden topic. We have a contract comparison that is skewed towards airlines and data that doesn't reflect all of our competitors. It is missing data on KLM/AF, and that information will not materialize, if it does, until after the survey closes.
Basically, there is already an organized effort to manage expectations down.
Why one might ask?
STOP MANAGING EXPECTATIONS DOWN!!!!!! SWA is NOT a comparision, I'm sick and tired of DPA types shortchanging the upside of the "acceptable range" by using SWA!!!
Originally Posted by
TheManager
Perhaps some math and basic human behavior can answer the ? and might be a key to better aligning our goals and needs.
DALPA reps make 92 hours a mo. on the highest equipment they can hold in any base. Add to that a $1,000.00/mo. stipend.
Assuming there are reps that are on the 75/76A that can hold 777A on paper, here is the difference.
767a @ 182hr @ 70 hrs (for oct) grosses $12,740
777a @ 217hr @ 92 hrs (always) grosses $20,872 with the stipend. Disclaimer: these are basic gross figures and don't include any other income i.e. green slips.
Anyone on trip loss cannot pick up flying over the limit. Anything they make over the limit (87 for vols.) has to go back to the union. Also, it is against all policy to pick up a green slip while on trip loss(i.e. volunters take home no more than 87 per month, if your union work days plus flying equal more than 87, the excess comes off of the union contribution to your hours) and if you can prove it has happened I will be right next to you at the disciplinary hearing/recall election.
Originally Posted by
TheManager
I think there are some among us that are already getting restoration pay. And, why would they risk upsetting the apple cart. Might they be motivated for a status quo agreement that is comfortable for the company and Wall Street?
What is the motivation for a guy to limit his own paycheck and not maximize the benefit for his own family? Is that how YOU would behave if in their position?
Originally Posted by
TheManager
Now, back to ACL's point. What if the disenfranchised pilots that are frustrated with the current tone and management of expectations became engaged and changed the compensation for DALPA volunteers to what they currently hold at the average line value for that category. Throw in the stipend and per diem and thats it.
I imagine that very quickly we all would be fighting for restoration.
Do it. You do realize that the pay limit for all volunteers changes every year based on the total pay hours divided by the number of pilots per month right? Currently, the average hours PER pilot, PER month over the year has been 87. If we hit a recession that number will go down. You could drop an email to the MEC Treasurer or read the policy manual for more detailed info....... Or keep making stuff up, your choice.
Originally Posted by
TheManager
I am short on the details of whether this would be a resolution change, policy manual change, or involve recalls, but if the pilots want it and support it, it could be organized and happen. A showing of grass roots unity to achieve true unity. We all need to be pulling the same oars in the same boat.
Of course you are, if you read up on it you would be able to take actions to DEMOCRATICALLY change the current system, but as most of the "sentiment crowd", you have removed yourself from the conversation.