Question, a buddy called me with the understanding that some CP's are saying hiring of 300-500 pilots in 2012.

I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.

At this point I could completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?