Originally Posted by Colnago

I'm 5' 9", 170 lbs. Not fat and not skinny. The best fit M&H could get me was fine around the waist and fine length wise. However, they are old-man pleated pants and extremely baggy. For the price, I shouldn't have to have them tailored. M&H is pure crap, sorry. With this fit, you would think of them to be $10 Walmart slacks.
..and yes, I understand you will never get the 'perfect' fit without having them tailored. However, I have found as close of a perfect fit with some non-tailored slacks store-bought.