Originally Posted by
Colnago
I'm 5' 9", 170 lbs. Not fat and not skinny. The best fit M&H could get me was fine around the waist and fine length wise. However, they are old-man pleated pants and extremely baggy. For the price, I shouldn't have to have them tailored. M&H is pure crap, sorry. With this fit, you would think of them to be $10 Walmart slacks.
..and yes, I understand you will never get the 'perfect' fit without having them tailored. However, I have found as close of a perfect fit with some non-tailored slacks store-bought.
That's your fault for ordering the "old man pleated version". They did offer you the pants withtout the pleats!
All I was saying was this, not everybody is built the same way. You might have to get some sort of tailoring done. If you want to argue about quality, you have something to complain about. The fit however is standard... every company has a different cut and every person has a different size!