Originally Posted by
tomgoodman
FTB,
Yes, there are several ways you could structure your opening offer, but all of them should leave you some room to "bargain down" to what you absolutely must obtain. Openers (from both sides) that I have seen usually tried for an extreme amount of bargaining room, causing gales of laughter when they appeared on bulletin boards. Absurd "wish lists" were so traditional that nobody took them seriously, and then real negotiations could begin.

I agree and this I guess is the question; if SWA pay parity on equivalent aircraft is acceptable pay scale how do you get it- do you start at equivalent pay or higher?
The reason I think pilots come on here, not all, but some and say restoration is because we know that number will be decreased in negotiations.
I guess we're afraid to champion SWA equivalent pay as anything more than the floor in fears that if it became the opener then we know we'll end up below that point.
Pilots I guess are basically talking to each other and saying do not make that your desired opener on the survey and going forward.
But, we're (in general) simultaneously saying to each other the floor is what is acceptable.
So what I am saying is don't misconstrue restoration as a all or nothing demand.
FWIW, one time I got to negotiate my pay for a job. I gave a range. I got the bottom. I learned my lesson. Join a union.

Or don't give a range even if the bottom of the range is what you find acceptable.
I'm giving a range of what I think is reasonable to demand all the way to the floor of what is acceptable if pay is the only issue and that range is restoration to SWA.