First, I do get to know the people that I vote for but, they are not always elected and the person or people I "voted against" sometimes are elected. At least one of my reps does not "directly represent" me in several areas I consider priorities.

Second, I have given ALPA the benefit of the doubt and for the most part ignored the blowhards on the forums and in the cockpit. I stay informed and am fairly level headed IMO. I attend LEC meeting every time that my schedule allows me to and stay involved in the process as much as possible.

However since attending the PTC roadshow my frustration level has started to rise significantly. What was the point of all of these roadshows if all that was going to be said was "fill out your survey." DALPA spent a lot of time and resources to go out and try to NOT get us excited about the upcoming negotiations.

Now to the post you quoted above, TO'M stated at the PTC meeting that we had just met with AF/KLM and that we would not be able to put out specifics about AF/KLM contracts due to concerns they had raised but that information containing general terms would be forthcoming. (He even said it would be out last weekend most likely.) It seems obvious based on the information that Carl was able to find that we could have put out something other than "trust us."

So, after watching TO'Ms performance at the meeting and the frustration that it caused this joke of a promised contract comparison just helped raise that frustration level. Based on what was said and how everything was presented at the PTC meeting I do feel that I will be presented with an inferior contract that DALPA would be happy to live with. I did not feel that way prior to attending the meeting.

I'm sorry my post caused you to become sarcastic.

vpr