Originally Posted by
gloopy
Like I said, I'm not against nice perks for us. But we have a massive amount of work to do first. I see this as a potential emotional distraction. I'm pro pilot to the bone and have a thin skin for jealous entitlement mentalities from other groups, but this is one issue that if we paid for in negotiations, we would be paying to get it for everyone. If the company wants to make this a policy because they feel it will build goodwill and attract/retain talent and make for happier employees, great! Gordon Bethune used to buy new cars to give away to employees with perfect attendance. But he did it because he wanted to because he saw a ROI in doing so. The pilots didn't buy them for everyone.
I just thought it was odd that such a random third tier issue was embedded in lines of questioning that tried to get us to choose between scope and pay, retirement and work rules, etc. The survey was very much a "the pie is only so big so what do you want and what can you live without" and yet here is this interesting but extremely low priority issue.
Fix pay, scope, work rules and retirement and we could afford our own tickets...although if, after all that, the company still wanted to offer them as a perk, rock on!
Gloopy,
I disagree with you here. You do not value PS passes - OK no worries, but we have 12,000 Pilots that all have different priorities. I personally would love some PS vacation Passes.
Why not ask for all of it? Why do positive space passes have to come at the expense of pay, work-rules, scope etc? And no, I am not willing to give up pay to get them - but some guys might.
Are they on top of my list? No, but personally they are currently more valuable to me then the DAL health care plan, commuting policies, and a bunch of other things that I don't use, and even though I don't currently use these items I do realize that they are far more important to the Pilot group as a whole.
Lets not disparage the things that we don't personally value but lets complete the survey - find out what most guys value - and then go after that.
And finally, screw the whole "Pie" analogy - we need a bigger pie!
Scoop