Originally Posted by
CrakPipeOvrheat
(4) 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof, which includes at least—
I believe you can log PIC. This is just a section of part 61 for aeronautical experience required for an ATP. This basically describes the exact same situation that IOE is. If you are performing the duties of PIC why not log PIC? It counts toward your certificates it should count in your log book. If you are performing the duties of PIC and the definition of a PIC has final authority then you would have final authority until the supervising pilot feels then need to intervene. "performing the duties of PIC", like I said, final authority is a PIC duty and you are performing it under supervision.
I should add that if you are not performing all the duties of PIC during supervision then I wouldn't log it as PIC...such as signing the paperwork.
That time "performing the duties of PIC" is NOT PIC, does NOT count as PIC, and can NOT be logged as PIC (unless you have a PIC type rating and want to log sole manipulator). It is SIC, and is logged as such.
It can also be used INSTEAD of some of the PIC time required for an ATP. Go read what you just quoted again.
That does NOT make it PIC, it is still SIC.
Look at the 121 dispatch release, that will tell you exactly who is the real PIC and who is not.