Originally Posted by
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$765 million dollar profit.
I'm so glad we've had our expectations managed downwards to 5% increase over bankruptcy save the company wages over 5 years.
My only question is you have Sailing, who is more pro-ALPA then pro-DPA
, saying SWA pay ain't enough.
is that a minority or majority within the circle of DALPA? Because maybe DALPA realized this was coming and said, oh, survey extended because you couldn't vote on a China overnight and btw think about this as you insert your % increases. ?
One could only hope such a sly move was intentional.
Actually if it came out that SWA pay is not enough I did not explain myself correctly. What I am saying is that achieving SWA pilots costs is not enough. No matter what the forum legends are on SW when we are before the NMB the actual numbers will be used. If we offered the company SWA pilot costs verses are 2 man pilot costs the company would sign that minute. In the last reported year SWA pilots average 166,000 in pay. Delta pilots average 142,000 in pay. Add in the 5 percent difference in DC money and the numbers are not that far apart.
What I put in my survey is that I would like to see us attempt to achieve SWA pilot pay rates on the MD88 with the rest of the fleets adjusted accordingly. That will put our actual block hour pilot costs quite a bit above SW. I also wanted significant raises each year of the contract in addition to the upfront raise.
Having asked quite a few pilots what they put down as a acceptable raise I can tell you that out of around 10 guys I was on the high side. Only 1 asked for more then I did in the survey. Not really a valid sample but I will bet money the average pilot in the survey fell in the 15 to 20 percent raise category.