It's a bad sign that it had to be extended yes but given the Q3 earnings report it may give some a chance to rethink their positions as theyre looking at their USAToday abd screaming... or mumbling... "pay me then! Huh? Survey? What survey?"

The real bad sign is guys asking for 15-25%. I take that's over 5 years? So 9 year FOs still will just be making $100,000 in 2017? I know that's min res on the lowest paying jet and one can always WS and trip park to higher pay.