Originally Posted by
throttleweenie
Well, how about this then? I hear a lot of crap from my F/Os about how us older guys are wrecking their career advancement by staying past 60. I'm at a loss to understand why they tell me this since I was 52 when that was enacted, and thus, got just as screwed as anyone, but I'm assuming that they mean anyone older than them who stays past 60 is screwing everyone junior/younger than them.
So, here's my open offer: To all those guys whom feel screwed by age 65, if you'll all go down to the Notary Public with me and sign the same affidavit as me, we can all be happy. That affidavit says that we will ALL quit at 60. But I don't have any takers so far because they all say that they'll now have to go past 60 to recoup their losses (I guess they're entitled to do that, whereas the older guys whom have precious little time to recover are not entitled to go past 60).
Pretty simple: if someone is so sure that quitting at 60 is the right thing, they should have NO PROBLEM making a legal promise to do so. And good luck dealing with the curve balls thrown your way in the meantime.
By the way, I'm 56 and can't wait to be done with this ʙʉʟʟʂʜit. I've been a captain (the word is not capitalized, according to Webster's Dictionary, so I use lower case, even though some use upper case for captains of my integrity. That's for all the tools out there whom believe that using upper v. lower means something) for 16 years, but never owned the "Captain's House" or Lamborghini, Corvette, or Yak 52, etc. I just downsized my home, matter o' fact.
And I lived on United's B-scale for 5 years, qualifying for food stamps the first two years as a pilot for the biggest airline in the free world.
TW
TW,
You were a captain when age 65 hit, correct?? Then you were not "just as screwed as anyone". It all depends on where you were when this 5 year stagnation law went into effect. Captain = 5 more years as captain. F/O = five more years as F/O. Furloughed = 5 more years furloughed. It is fallicy to believe that everyone benefits equally from age 65. For example, an age 40 F/O a few retirements away from captain in Dec 07 will still be an F/O in Dec 12 (assuming no growth, like here at UAL). He will have 20 years in the left seat, (same if age 65 wouldn't have happened), and 15 if he quits at 60. On the other hand, a 40 y/o already in the left seat in 2007 will have 25 years in the left seat.
Sled