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Old 10-26-2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The numbers are probably fine. Keep in mind that 166,000 was the average for all pilots. There are lots of SW pilots who fly almost full time in the reserves as a example. Same thing at Delta. There are Delta 767 Captains who will not make 150,000 k this year by choice. There are lots of Delta 767 CA's who will break 250K this year. There are guys who had second business at both airlines. Many consider the airlines there second job. Lots of Delta guys over 60 now flying 20 hours a month. Same at SW I suspect. The number to look at is the difference. Delta was at 142,000 last year on average an SW at 166,000 using company reports. Delta gets 5 percent more in the DC fund not reflected in those numbers and there is a 4 percent raise in 3 months.
The data in those reports is what will be used when you are before the NMB. Not the data from a welcome packet. The numbers come straight from the companies operational reports. Here is a W2 for the last pay period for a 767 Delta CA. Pretax he is at 269,000 with 2 months yet to go. He has not worked that hard but he works smart! Is he the norm, not at all but the norm rarely gets posted.
Payments: - Gross Earnings Pretax Ins and 401K Taxes Deductions Net Pay Direct Deposit Current $15857.69 $321.49 $4416.51 $671.28 $0.00 $10391.75 Year To Date $269936.52 $28486.31 $72234.80 $15263.46 $0.00 $152875.41
I know that you're trying to ignore me, but $166,000 was not the average for all SWA pilots. You can repeat it all you want, that doesn't mean that it's right. The data that you're using is obviously flawed.

Take a good look at this page:
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...20Analysis.htm

Take a good look at the P-10 data listed, it's obviously wrong, you can't possibly think that it's correct.

TransStats will pick up a revision next week...

After the revision, the correct average wages should be able to be calculated, and it will be higher than $186,000. Matter of fact, my estimation is at around $193,000 per year average for all SWA pilots including those with their own business, those in the reserves, blah blah blah.

I'll get to total compensation later.

Last edited by LuvJockey; 10-26-2011 at 01:46 PM.