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Old 10-26-2011 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by F9 A319
Just so I'm clear, are you or are you not a Native RAH pilot? I really don't have the time or inclination to ponder, discuss and/or argue "Industry Philosophy" with someone that doesn't have any skin in the game.

The thing is we Frontier pilots are NOT "fed up." That's a fundamental difference between the IBT and FAPA. We don't want the "CEO to wake up every morning and wonder what we're going to do to them today" [sic] (Tim Beaty, IBT Global Strategies, membership meeting, February 8, 2011).

FAPA has been very successful in working with Management, at Frontier and at RAH, as opposed to fighting them every step of the way. We have a common goal, to see the airline succeed. We will fight when necessary and we have won a very high percentage of the fights we chose to fight, but our foundation is to negotiate a realistic solution to problems.

We don't want ONE contract, we like ours and we don't want to be a single carrier - the FFD is truly "a melting ice cube" - that's why RAH bought Frontier!

The IBT has done nothing since October of 2009 to foster a healthy relationship with the Frontier pilot group. I'm in no way opposed to the individual RAH pilots and I am very willing to support the individual pilots but the IBT has been unprofessional, heavy handed, dismissive and extremely confrontational from the beginning of our relationship. They're friggin' suing us for God's sake! If the IBT is successful in the path they have chosen, Frontier will cease to exist and there are plenty of Native RAH pilots hoping for that.

Where does "and do what's right" fit in this situation?

The IBT has been trying their best for over a year to beat the Frontier pilot group into submission, not for the good of the Frontier pilots they're supposed to represent, but solely to pad their membership numbers. What part of "Stand up and support who is standing with you" does that fall under? The IBT has done NOTHING that could even remotely be construed as standing by ANY Frontier pilot.

I have very good friends that are Native RAH pilots. I would be proud to walk the line with them, they deserve better. It's the IBT I cannot tolerate. They have done nothing to earn my support and are actively attacking my ability to support my family and myself.

I will walk with the Native RAH pilots and my friends when the IBT stops trying to put me out of work, dictate to me what I want and what's best for me and actually attempts to open a dialogue with the Frontier pilots.

So far all I have seen from the IBT is ego and an agenda that has nothing to do with the good of my pilot group or the industry.

The fact that every E-Board position at Local 357 was filled with a candidate that was unopposed (7 positions, 1800+ members) speaks volumes about the level of internal involvement and concern with the future of this company and the course of the IBT going forward.

With Craig Moffatt as President the MEA pilots ought to start feeling represented, perhaps Craig will do something (anything would be an improvement) to start a basis of a relationship with the Frontier pilot group.

I am very hopeful that once the new E-Board takes over on January 1, 2012 and, hopefully, Doug Turner is out of the picture/process that the relationship will improve but I'm not holding my breath.
It sounds like you're hoping any new leadership would acknowledge and accept the existence of FAPA and or FAPAinvest. Everyone that is on the new E-Board ran unopposed. That would have been a great opportunity for a few Frontier pilots to ensure quality of service by jumping in the driver's seat.
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