Originally Posted by
F9 Driver
Full Frontier Express flights are being dropped for the same reason that People's Express went T.U. We can't charge enough to cover the cost of operating the small jets on those routes. The struck work definition is an afterthought at best. Zooropa has his own definition of struck work but I don't see where ANY of Frontier's flying, that is performed by an express carrier, could be considered struck work to the mainline since it is the mainline's flying to begin with. Mainline contracts/allows an express carrier to do the work, mainline can hire / fire the express carrier, but if the express carrier goes on strike mainline can't fly those routes? I don't agree.
The bad blood comes from the naked seniority grab that the 357 pilots made coupled with forcing F9 pilots into the IBT. The constant reference - always by RAH pilots by the way - to us being protective of bigger equipment demonstrates their envy, not ours. We are protective of the quality of life that we have built at an airline we intended to spend our careers at. We have no say over what equipment we fly, and most don't care.
As a Midwest pilot maybe you see the non sequitur in the middle of the arguments made by the IBT leadership and RAH pilots on this board: "We had nothing to do with destroying Midwest. WE have no choice where we flew or for whom."
But, "WE bought you with money made from the sweat off our backs and therefore WE are entitled to seniority gains at your expense."
Leading to, "YOU have to respect our strike and help us because we forced you to be in our bargaining unit."
Again, this is a moot point and I'm probably wasting electrons writing this. RAH 357 is nowhere near a strike. This vote is a morale builder, nothing more (with 60% of the pilots voting on the first day). F9 will be owned by someone other than Republic Holdings or will be out of business LONG before any of this matters. I'm betting on the former.
we don't want your planes, keep em. Just stop the whoa is me crap already. FAPA tried a seniority grab too. So Did lynx, so did midwest. Ours was actually not a staple like everyone else proposed. As far as the IBT goes, you had a vote. You could have gotten further by trying to unify as soon as the purchases were announced. I wager you would have won in a landslide back then as the IBT was weak at that time. Instead you did the we're better than you just because we've been here longer than most. That's why I hate seniority being the end all be all. The longer you fight the system, the worse it's going to be for you. Losing makes you stronger. Apparently the "kids" continually school you in labor relations and labor law. Might be time to listen to them. Just saying.