Originally Posted by F9 Driver

Full Frontier Express flights are being dropped for the same reason that People's Express went T.U. We can't charge enough to cover the cost of operating the small jets on those routes. The struck work definition is an afterthought at best. Zooropa has his own definition of struck work but I don't see where ANY of Frontier's flying, that is performed by an express carrier, could be considered struck work to the mainline since it is the mainline's flying to begin with. Mainline contracts/allows an express carrier to do the work, mainline can hire / fire the express carrier, but if the express carrier goes on strike mainline can't fly those routes? I don't agree.

The bad blood comes from the naked seniority grab that the 357 pilots made coupled with forcing F9 pilots into the IBT.

Who decided the SLI? Was it the IBT pilots or Eischen?
How were you forced into IBT? Were you allowed to vote? Did you vote? It was still a democratic vote, no? it just didn't go your way.... nor would it have been mathematically possible. but that still isn't being "forced".


The constant reference - always by RAH pilots by the way - to us being protective of bigger equipment demonstrates their envy, not ours.

Not really. You keep talking about your dues already being put in and you earning this and that and generally inferring that you are better than legacy-RAH. that isn't envy. F9 has been driving that wedge.

We are protective of the quality of life that we have built at an airline we intended to spend our careers at. We have no say over what equipment we fly, and most don't care.

Great! So share it just like RAH shares it's cash made by the FFD side of the house! i'm sure lots of folks will stay for their craeers as well.

As a Midwest pilot maybe you see the non sequitur in the middle of the arguments made by the IBT leadership and RAH pilots on this board: "We had nothing to do with destroying Midwest. WE have no choice where we flew or for whom."

True.

But, "WE bought you with money made from the sweat off our backs and therefore WE are entitled to seniority gains at your expense."

Again, who decided the SLI? The SLI award determined what happened...

Leading to, "YOU have to respect our strike and help us because we forced you to be in our bargaining unit."

Again, was there not a vote? Nobody was forced into anything as you allude to.

Again, this is a moot point and I'm probably wasting electrons writing this. RAH 357 is nowhere near a strike. This vote is a morale builder, nothing more (with 60% of the pilots voting on the first day). F9 will be owned by someone other than Republic Holdings or will be out of business LONG before any of this matters. I'm betting on the former.