Id just like to get input from people at all airlines about OUT or PUSH times. Our "management" at ****mont has decided to use 50 feet of A/C movement to get the time started. Now they have the gull to complain about originating flights being 1-5 minutes late.

Does anyone other than ****mont and PSA go off movement? From all my jumpseating over the years I've only noticed doors shut/brake release.

Thanks.