Originally Posted by
Ottopilot
Continental added movement too. We were releasing brakes and not leaving right away due to more bags, ramp contral, etc. Sure they will be late more, but its worth it not to pay the pilots.
CAL added movement for DOT purposes, but as of now we still get paid based on all doors closed and brakes released. That's what CCS will show. The internal FLIFO system used to show flight status on the public website and mobile devices uses aircraft movement to trigger that. Why do you think rampers will sometimes ask if they can move us a bit to get an out time? We may be "out" on our OOOI page FOR PAY PURPOSES but their screens don't show us out until we start getting pushed. That's why the company inserted that GSI field in the lower corner and why we get a GSI delay prompt later in flight if the OUT and GSI time differ by 2 minutes or more. The company wants a reason we didn't move when we were ready.
Where we really took a hit was on the arrival. Park at the gate and the rampers pop the baggage door triggering an IN time for both DOT and pay. They removed it from the main cabin door. Such a wonderful "concession" in EWR when I have waited up to 25 minutes for a jetway driver.