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Old 11-11-2011 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I feel we just gave up a ton of future leverage. It doesn't seem like a big deal now because we have no new hires, but when we're hiring 500+ pilots per year, it is a huge give-back. I'm tired of ALPA changing our contract without our input.

First, do you understand the increases in manning for FO's that will result in no 23.G obligations. Look at the training that will be required going forward, think about the number of OE's that will have to be done. Every one of those FO's is off the hook, completely. That is worth 3-4% staffing in each seat alone. Suffice to say fixing this is huge.

Second, it is a TA it has not been ratified. Want MEMRAT? Call your reps. It will pass by over 90% easy. If you have been subjected to 23G you will know what a huge gain this is.

The quid:
Most new hires do two training events in their first year. It helps DAL stabilize training and increase the new hire training footprint going forward. That is good for them, and ultimately good for us.

DAL was one of the few airlines that did not have an initial training freeze. They used to btw.

23K and G would have cost us a ton of negotiation capital in Section 6, now that is done. It would cost less to get the 12 month lock taken off new hires.

Yes, there was a quid, but frankly for the increase in staffing and WS awards that this will generate, we as a pilot group will come out ahead.