Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

The big beef I have with both you and Carl, is you both think if we just set an objective of XX, then we can achieve it, without any consideration of the negotiating environment, economic environment, financial strength of Delta, industry peer group, etc. etc. etc.

I have my own goals and objectives; but I am also a realist. If we can achieve those --- great. If it becomes obvious we cannot, I'd rather take something than nothing.

As the APA strategy is now entering the final stages, all of you that were so proud of them standing firm, really need to reassess the strategy of "standing firm until i get what I want". In the end, APA stood firm, but NEVER got what they wanted.