Originally Posted by
wizepilot
You are correct. The CFII logs ALL the time as PIC. But the student can log PIC time as long as you are not in IMC.
I disagree. A certificated student can log all flight time as PIC for an aircraft in which he is appropriately rated. The student, without an instrument rating cannot act as PIC, but he can log PIC as the sole manipulator of the controls.