Originally Posted by
pokey9554
I disagree. A certificated student can log all flight time as PIC for an aircraft in which he is appropriately rated. The student, without an instrument rating cannot act as PIC, but he can log PIC as the sole manipulator of the controls.
Correct, as long as he is rated in the aircraft.
And this includes IMC even though the student does not have an instrument rating (assuming the flight is legal, ie there is a CFII or CFI on board).
He is logging sole-manipulator PIC but that's fine for FAA ratings.