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Old 11-20-2011 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Your 50% number could never be supported in front of the nmb. The actual hourly adusted rate for SW is 212 an hour not 210. That is the rate I am using. Our rate for a 737 CA will be 181 or so on 1 Jan. As far as days worked again many here are taking a number out of context. The pamphlet put out to Airtran stated over the last 5 years SW pilots averaged 12 days of work per month. What that means is that when you average in days a reserve pilot worked with days a line pilot worked and then account for vacation, sick, mil leave, dropped trips ect.. the average was 12 days. The average will be less then 12 for Delta pilots over the same days. When the 2011 numbers come out the total compensation for Delta will be even closer then 2010 with SW. We had a huge number of double pay trips, a 4 percent raise and 6 percent profit sharing. The 2010 numbers again from MIT were 166,000 for SW pilots on average and 142,000 for Delta pilots on average. Go before the NMB and throw out 50% to get even and you will not look good or even smart. The exact numbers we will there for both sides to see.
I do however believe our goal should be for the MD88 to come up to SW. That slants the numbers more in our favor.
Those MIT numbers are worthless for comparison purposes... if the purpose of your comparison is to compare the standard of living provided by the W2 of a Delta domestic narrowbody pilot with the standard of living provided by the W2 of an SWA domestic narrowbody pilot. 50% is indeed about right. Now, if your purpose is to minimize the pay differential between Delta pilots and SWA pilots in an attempt to minimize what the company will have to come up with for our next contract... well that's a different story. The MIT project that touts those numbers is headed by a guy who specializes in minimizing airline labor costs. Again, we're just not that stupid.

I picked up at the hotel this morning at 4:30am. Finished my trip, and now I'm at home coming down with a cold. I'm running out of steam tonight, so I'll let Carl finish you off on this one. I predict he's going to take you apart. I'll be traveling all day tomorrow for Thanksgiving. I'll check back in a couple of days... popcorn in hand. This should be good!