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Old 11-23-2011 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
AE's train top down, ie. the senior guys get trained/converted before the junior guys. The MD's go from bottom up. I'm not sure at all about the Voluntary Displacements...? Who goes when?

Here's a little 'gotcha' I learned the hard way a long time ago. Let's say you bid an AE thinking you will be a line holder. Well...depending on where you shake out in the new category, seniority wise, you could be trained and converted and...ON RESERVE...while guys JUNIOR to you are still on their old equipment, awaiting training.

Meanwhile, you are commuting to reserve, waiting for all those junior guys to be trained and converted. This happens quite a bit when ever there is a new category, ie. the NYC A320 in this bid. So, given there is a 12mo. conversion window in this bid, a "senior" A320 bidder could do 11 mo. on reserve, waiting for the junior guys to be trained.
From the contract:

Normally, pilots who hold: a. VDs will be scheduled for training in seniority order prior to pilots who hold MDs from the same posting and from the same category. MDs from the same posting and from the same category will be scheduled for training in inverse seniority order.

Originally Posted by Delta1067
I got a friend who got an MD to a different domicile but she staying on the same equipment. Do simple domicile swaps take affect sooner rather than later since a training event isn't involved?
They seem to like to move them to the new category sooner, my last bid where I changed bases I converted 2 months ahead of the scheduled date.

Originally Posted by jherk02
For what it is worth, the Memphis MDs were told that they could use their seniority to bid when they converted (ie, in seniority order) per LOA #29. Although the automatic system is not in place yet, crew resources will manually process the request. I'm pretty sure this only applies to the MEM MDs.
Hadn't heard that one, but not surprised. If I were in MEM and being made into a commuter, I would wait until the closed the door on me!