I don't mean to do the wet noodle thing but....

an independent union or ALPA certainly would invite boatloads of debate as to advantages versus disadvantages.

But, if you don't like the leadership now, you won't like it at some future date as an independent because it will be the same pilots.

Absent a great deal of hiring/retiring turnover, the same pilots in the same pilot group will rise to the top in either case, independent or national.

You guys are speculating a "grass is greener" vision. 'Won't change a thing as far as leadership.