Where did I say anything about labor relations? The bottom line is the ones I mentioned built their places with the sweat of their two hands. They didn't do that by socking away bonus programs to 'retain top talent' while allowing their business models to go to Hades. There is big divide between a CEO resisting labor pay/benefit increases and one who uses labor as an excuse when the company goes Tits Up. I know the history far better then you.