Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
If you look at the world through a soda straw, we have lost 1% of Atlantic capacity vs. AF/KLM/AZ over a few months. I thought I was quite clear that this was going to happen over an extended time period and that your short term snapshot was not the end state. The JV flying accounts for a little over 20% of Delta's capacity.
Here's what you said earlier:
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
ALPA negotiated that we will now get 50%...Clearly, everyone can see that is a win for Delta pilots
So we go from 47.2% to 50%, a gain of 2.8% and you call it a win.
Using the same criteria our current level of 46.0% must be a loss then, no?
We are below the level we were at when Alitalia joined and are forecast to stay there. That is a fact. Not only that, the numbers come from the very person that crafted the PWA language in question...
Obviously there has been a reduction of capacity, that's why we are looking at percentages of the production balance.
AFKLM/AZ has reduced capacity - lost some flying
Delta has reduced capacity even more - lost more flying
I really have a hard time believing your sincerity when you try to assert this is a win for us, what criteria are you using?
The best argument was that we are collecting IOUs at a rapid rate.
To bad we can't turn them in until 2014, and too bad there is a mechanism in place that throws away 2 years worth of IOUs if Delta flies 49.75% in the 12 months leading up to March 31, 2014.
How can you with a straight face say this is good for Delta pilots?
When we reduce flying it isn't a good thing for Delta pilots.
When we reduce flying more than our "partners" when we are already out of balance is really bad for Delta pilots.
We don't control much of the space airlines operate in.
We can't control WX, economies, earthquakes, disease or foreign competitors.
We have little control over the operation of Delta Air Lines.
About the only thing we have is the PWA.
When we then lose the contractual ability to hold Delta accountable for several years that is a bad thing. How can you not get that?
What if we lost our ability to enforce pay rates for several years.
What if our current pay was 1% lower than it was last year.
But we did get the promise that we'll get a 5% raise in 2014, would you consider that a "win?" because that's the argument you are making...
Seriously Alfa, "it's only 20% of our capacity" so that makes it ok?
I highly doubt you or anybody on the top floors at Delta even knows what the "end state" in 2014 will be. The company doesn't even know what the price of fuel will be in the coming months but they buy "insurance" by hedging fuel...
What's our "insurance" for JV production balance in the coming year?
Cheers
George
P.S. Since you seem to assert how poor my knowledge of the situation in Europe is i'd like to add that I grew up over there and my parents and half of my siblings still live over there, so I might know a thing or two about that.