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Old 12-04-2011 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AxialFlow
...again, the hot button issue of checkride failures is a red herring. How many crashes have there been when neither pilot had a failed checkride? How many safe flights have been conducted by pilots with multiple checkride failures? These things are always a chain of events...and it started with compensation in this case. Had both pilots been able to afford a hotel room the night before, I guarantee we would not be having this conversation.
You can fail a checkride, no problem, but don't ever LIE about it. He did so. I honestly don't think I would hire someone with 3 checkride failures in such a close period as this career changer had. Colgan didnt know because he was DIShonest. His failures continued even at Colgan, and eventually, it culminated to 3407.

I agree 100%. This accident was not caused by fatigue. This accident was caused because the Captain stalled the airplane, and then insisted on pulling when he should have been pushing. Very poor airmanship at a minimum, and possibly poor training as contributing. Also contributing was poor airmanship in the right seat, not recognizing and being proactive to prevent.

Once the captian stalled the airplane, pure adrenaline, proper airmanship, and proper training take over. Citing fatigue is a scapegoat to further a seperate cause.
Spot on!
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