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Old 12-05-2011 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Wow, Carl, you are quoting the business press, excellent source of financial analysis. Go and read some financial analysis by people that make their living doing it. Is that really what you are standing on, the headline from the Fort-Worth Star Telegram? Is this a joke or are you seriously using the Fort-Worth Star Telegram as your source for financial analysis.

American only has a little over $1 billion in unsecured debt, I will answer the question but clearly you don't have any information beyond the Fort-Worth Star Telegram. Unsecured debt is just about all that gets wiped out in bankruptcy. The rest is secured, mostly by aircraft, so they will not be able to wipe it out.

American does not have double the debt load of Delta. American (about 8.2 billion) has less long term debt than Delta (about 12.5 billion), but they are a much smaller company now. Another Carlism that flies out the window with yesterday's Fort-Worth Star Telegram. American's chief problem is a revenue problem.

Since you are so into reading newspapers, Carl, why don't you go back two years and list out the PRASM performance of American vs. Delta. Show me how each airline has done in that time. Then tell me why there is a difference. Carl, you can bluster and attack, but you can't come up with a reason why American has underperformed Delta in the last few years.

You show headlines from the press that has no clue on anything that happens in this industry. I offer analysis gleaned from researching company reports and from people that get paid lots of money to do nothing else but analyze the industry. I guess everyone else can decide which sources to believe.

Alfa;

I am not one to give much credence to the talking heads, but his quotes were Associated Press re-printed in other papers.

I guess you posting on an anonymous web-board doesn't require any level of press reliability, but since most of us know your real world identity, this does smack of deflection.

Carl backed up his assertions as challenged by you. If this is all you got, the round goes to Carl.

Scambo (unbiased judge)

BTW, Carl says the problem is debt, you say the problem is revenue. What's the difference? Debits dont equal credits. If this is just a Johnson measuring contest please let me slip out of the way and you two just keep on comparing.