Originally Posted by
DMEarc
Not correct.
The entire approach was sterile.
Your post does not demonstrate the comprehension of an airline pilot. Can you elaborate on your experience because your posts are quite elementary as best.
Approach, as defined by loc active and capture. BELOW 10k, it was definitely not sterile. Go back and read the CVR.
and nowhere in the manuals does it teach pilots to crash airplanes, and yet it happens! By your reasoning, every crash deemed as pilot error is simply due to incompetent pilots. If you don't understand the significance of the time of day, the amount of rest involved, and it being the last leg...you're NEVER going to get it.
Stop making excuses. Both had afternoon checkins. Both had their first turn cancelled, and their first operating leg was the BUF accident leg!
It's insulting for you to insinuate that it was the last leg as if it's something they are now tired for. It was their first operating leg for the day. Now had they done a 13.5 hr duty 5-leg day (like what I do at 9E and have done for over 4 years) and this accident happened on leg 5, I could understand. Amount of rest involved? Both had over well above min rest, in fact, almost 20+ hrs rest. But both commuted, one throughout the entire NIGHT! How can you show up to work dead tired and check in for what could be a 16 hr duty day, when your body was up all night on Fedex planes? They set themselve up for failure. The Captain, for his constant disapprovals in checkrides both pre and post Colgan, lying on his application, and the FO, for commuting throughout the night and then flying while she was obviously sick. Poor girl was too poor to call in sick to get a hotel room, that's an industry problem, so I don't blame her there. But still.
Lets be honest. If you wanted to make laws to prevent this particular crash, it's not the rest or duty rules. As already stated, afternoon checkins with plenty of rest beforehand, and it was their first operating leg for the day. Their tiredness was not due to their flight schedule that day. It was how they got there. How about a law prohibiting commuting in the entire night (before check in) on cargo carriers? How about a law that punishes you for lying on applications for failed checkrides? Obviously, the current ones didn't stop that Captain. How about a law for not flying when obviously sick? That didn't stop her either.