Originally Posted by xjtguy

It's nothing but a snapshot of how messed up the FAA is. With the F and the second A being the culprits.

ANYTIME you combine federal and administration, you're bound to get something messed up in the first place, and for it to take a looooonnnggggg time to fix.

It was in the ATP PTS, as well as many many airline training programs to "minimize altitude loss" in not only the recovery, but also the entry. As well as use it as a pass/fail criteria. Sadly, it simply devolved into more of a teaching the student how to enter the stall with minimal loss than it ever was about 1) recognizing the onset of the stall and 2) recovering aircraft control, speed, and altitude. You know, ACTUAL real world life saving actions. As well as how get out of the shaker, try to maintain an AOA (that you have no idea of), etc.

As well as maintaining altitude in the recovery and not going above the entry altitude when the shaker activated, and stabilizing at the speed at which the maneuver was started, etc.