Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
He is dead accurate. It is meet and confer. They have no say in whatever we want to do. This is the language that was agreed to in the settlement. I will let Bar answer why Ford-Cooksey decided to agree on weak worded language, but the reality is that it has no strength and cannot force this pilot group, or any pilot group to bend to the RJ side of the Ford-Cooksey working in the Policy Manual.
Absolutely incorrect. If we don't agree with our regional competitors on what is in OUR scope opener, the ALPA president becomes directly involved. All of it completely hidden from us. All of it. That's what the language says.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
It was a settlement over a lawsuit against ALPA. They agreed to the weak worded language that would never hold any mainline mec's feet to the legal fire, so of course ALPA agreed to put it in there. It is fluff at best.
That is pure speculation on your part. This will be the first full-scale test of it that I'm aware of in a Section 6. And we'll not be privy to what was said in any meetings, or what Moak's actions were.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
The only power that ALPA National has over any pilot group is the President's refusal to sign a CBA. As shiz stated, that will never happen for a major airline. If LM even thought about doing that at one of the majors within ALPA, even I would be ready to dump em, and he knows that. He is politically savvy, as is anyone who has made it to that position. No President would want to be over ALPA when they lost a 12K pilot group.
Absolutely incorrect. The ALPA president MUST insert himself in the process if our regional competitors don't agree with what we want to put into OUR scope opener. And we will never know what Moak's influence was. It's all secret.
Carl