Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Great, no really, good for them. They are unified and have not been though CH11.

We take a pay raise lower than theirs, they will see freezes or pay cuts.

They had a good fuel hedge that they used to hose the rest of the industry. That is gone and the competition with the legacies is rationalized. Period.

ALPA no ALPA does not matter, look at their profits and business model of the last decade and a half. They got lucky with a 55 dollar a bbl hedge. We did not.