Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Very true. It would be interesting if they had to count travel time by car our plane to work. It might make commuting by plane more desirable since we have some that drive four plus hrs to work.

That's why the "paper trail" after an accident won't just be limited to pulling non rev records. They will ask for, and get, cell phone company call/text/tower ping data, ez-pass, on star, parking lot ID swipe times, hotel check in times, credit card reciepts, emails, facebook, ATM machines, etc. to use as evidence that a rogue renegade pilot was "careless and wreckless" and was a primary cause of an accident.
The more I read of this monstrosity the more it looks like it was written by the ATA and signed into law. I know, I know, were it not for ALPA/CAPA/etc it would have been worse. Worse is just hard to see right now.
Some of the worst regionals and supplimentals will have to hire a few more pilots but the legacy's won't really see much additional staffing that I can tell. A lot will depend on scheduled versus actual and if there is any relief for IROPS and the like or if all of these are hard times.
9 hours isn't really enough for a transcon turn and if its a hard 9 hours (as defined by throttle up+ projected time on last leg like it currently is) then I don't see very many scheduled ops over 8 hours because that will lead to a lot of CX flights far from base/position for the pilot and the plane and a lot of gate returns for their 2 pilot ETOPS fantasy anytime there are even marginal ground delays. If the 9 hours or 2 man ETOPS times are flexibile like the current 8 is (legal to start legal to finish) then its a net loss for us big time.