Thread: FAA Rest Rules
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:13 AM
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dweeks
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
BG,

Its worse than that. Calendar day does not even come into the equation - it strictly goes by duty periods. You can fly a 4 day trip starting with a red-eye and then a 30+ hour layover (or as we call it in LAX - our BID package ) operate on all 4 calendar days and only qualify for 3 duty periods. At this point the 3.5/1 usually kicks in.

One more gotcha that we at DAL now have to deal with is a minimum 12 hour rest before and after each red-eye. The company unilaterally started this last summer and it has really caused the 30+ layovers to increase.

The rotation construction committee (RCC) guys in each base are currently dealing with this among other QOL affecting issues. I encourage everyone to talk with your RCC representative with your inputs on trip construction.

In my opinion the RCC guys are doing a great job. Our bid package in LAX on the 737 is acknowledged by this committee as the worst in the system but it has gotten a lot better in January - partly due to their efforts.


Scoop
At America West, err, US Airways West, our scheduling rules have language that says that scheduled layovers of 24:00 or more count as a duty period for the purposes of our (West, not East) minimum 5:15 per duty period average.

So if we have a 4 calendar day trip that has 3 duty periods with flying, and one RON of 25:00, this is paid like a 4 duty period trip; 21 hour min GT from the 5:15 rule.

This is huge for us. Our three calendar day two duty period PHX-(Hawaii city)-PHX pays 15:45 instead of 13ish block time because all our RON in the Isalnds are 28-31 hours.

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