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Old 12-29-2011 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
It's about balance. There needs to be a middle ground. Whether you like it or not, this airline is roughly a 50/50 split on commuters/non commuters. Don't tell me commuting is always a choice. There are over 10,500 active pilots at this airline, & you have no idea what each and every commuter's individual circumstances are. To tell me that commuting is a choice is like me telling you that a displacement to a lower paying seat is a choice, or having your pension frozen was your choice.

This company is constantly changing things that effect all of us, some in more negative ways then others. Many pilots chose to move to base, only to have their base closed(MEM) or be displaced to a different base. Now what do they do? Who will cover the loss on their house due to the poor housing market? What about someone who just bought a house in ATL only to be displaced to NYC? Are they not supposed to commute? Or how about the guys who have enough seniority to hold a line on the DC-9, but will be too junior on other equipment to do so? Should a guy who moved to MSP and won't be able to hold anything in MSP once the DC9's are parked not commute?

Just because staying on lower paying equipment got you better QOL doesn't mean it will for other people. Everyone's situation is different, & it's pure arrogance to assume that everyone who commutes is doing it by choice. I want better scope, pay, retirement, trips, etc for every Delta pilot. Commuter or non commuter. It's no wonder this job continues to tank. There is just no unity. It's always 'me, me, me'.

Forgot your coffee this morning J29?

I agree wholeheartedly, that if someone comes on this board or any other forum and states "commuting is a choice" they have yet to have a house under-water, family issue, base closure, or some other uncontrollable circumstance now causing said person to become a commuter. How many MEM based pilots will be a first time commuter, or return-commuter after many years of driving to work? (But it's a choice for the MEM based guys, right?)

Put as simply as possible: (Hopefully PG is reading this.)

Family/Community/Housing/etc. NECESSITIES dictate the DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

Decision making then drives which option we choose! Option A, B, or any other contingency.

The option we have chosen is then the "choice" we've made while taking into account all other external/internal factors in the "decision making process", based on external/internal "necessities".

To say alone that "commuting is a choice" is one of the most ignorant comments I've ever heard on this forum. It's like telling someone that "dressing themselves in the morning" is a choice, or "wearing our uniform to work" is a choice.

Good day all, and a Happy New Year.

GJ