Originally Posted by Coach67

Kind of makes you wonder why ALPA's Negotiatiors didn't do the same thing.

First we have a terrible T&PA that has one sided expiration provisions ... that was not even presented to the pilot group for an explanation OR input before the ratification.

Secondly, the terrible T&PA prohibits both MEC's from saying "alright Management, you guys are dragging your feet on a JCBA ... we want to forget the Joint Negotiations and go back to our individual (CAL & UAL) Sec 6 negotiations and maybe get an earlier release for just one pilot group.

Thirdly, the Negotiators want to engage the company on band aids to the POS T&PA instead of taking some short term pain for long term gain.
Who negotiated this lousy T&PA ... oh yea ... the new UAL-MEC Chairman. Who voted for the POS T&PA ... oh yeah the new UAL-MEC Vice Chairman.

Had ALPA not agreed to the T&PA provision that prohibits individual Section 6 negotiations, we could have negotiatied at least two things:
CAL could have negotiated a short term Sec 6 with some improved work rules (closer to UAL's) and some permanent Profit Sharing provisions. UAL could have negotiated a short term Sec 6 with pay pairity with CAL and some domicile protections.

Then we could have worked on a JCBA JUST LIKE the IBT did for the mechanics. ALPA Negotiators and both MEC's were short sighted with their ratification of a T&PA with expirations. That's not hind sight either ... many people were angry that they ratified a T&PA with short term protections WITHOUT pilot input.

Ok yeah ... the MEC said it didn't matter BECAUSE we were going to have a JCBA before the T&PA expired ... we are doomed with this new UAL MEC leadership.