Im fairly certain that most if not all of the Gulf pilots at 9E made Captain before the integration and a nice % of those are in a good position to move on. I know of many that are at majors now as well. So, in that line of logic it was a good return on investment. Without a 4 year that limit themselves anyways but a large chunk will get it with online classes. I dont understand how gulfstream pilots are brought into every thread, the 5 years ive been in 121 they've always been brought up. When will it die? They made a good choice, turned out to be a good investment when they made it. Move on. They paid for their jobs? Whats so different between them and atp guys and riddle or und guys? Or part 61 for that matter. Are you saying thay just because they "paid" for their jobs they will vote for the 5% cut? Thats asenine.