I'm curious to how much detail ALPA is going to go into when trying to ram this thing down our throat in the roadshows. They signed the NDA, even though they work for me and now they can't tell me the details? I'd like to see the numbers this ALPA financial expert came up with. Just a take my word for it, we need to give concessions isn't going to cut it. A quick rough calculation show that a 5% cut from pilots is somewhere close to the reported cost of the move plus previous management exit costs.