Originally Posted by
goaround2000
Surreal1221,
You seem like someone who's actually informed. Has it occurred to you that maybe there's not much communication between the MECs because the asa MEC keeps walking away from every meeting?
Were you there? Have you been at any of our joint MEC meetings? Well, I have, and no one has walked out on anyone. Not too sure where this little rumor started. While there may be differences between the two on any number of issues or strategies, that's all they are. Differences. We're all adults and no one has walked out from anything.
Yeah, sorry, that's not too dramatic now is it? Pretty boring actually. Sorry to disappoint.
Originally Posted by goaround2000
Here's the facts, the larger group (XJT) is not willing to take any concessions of any type. That includes PBS, pay, or any work rule that diminishes QOL. As some of your current and former union guys say "we are not getting on board with it". It's really that simple. Your MEC needs to get proactive at getting improvements to what we have, the financial state of the company is not their job. So they need to start playing ball with the guys that are trying to improve the landscape for the pilots (our guys). Maybe then you'll see some communication. Until then you can have your p.o.s. contract, and we'll keep ours, two separate lists, and we'll continue operating as one happy dysfunctional family. What do you think?
How about you get your house in order before you go pointing fingers?
Well, I'll try to say it a different way now...
Whole new discussion. All I can suggest to you, and the same thing I tell my pilots - contact your status reps and your JNC folks. They are the avenue for contract suggestions.
Get rid of the emotional rhetoric and start thinking about strategic planning for our combined pilot group and realize nothing is going to be dropped in your lap by this "new" (for you) management team.
Keep your head in the sand regarding PBS all you want, but it was quite comical when your Scheduling Chair was in our offices before he went back and met with his own folks. He was quite impressed with the PBS product and even offered up suggestions that could be implemented. However, what a quick turnaround he made once he returned with rational and logical empirical data. No one wanted to listen.
So be it...ignorance can kill many things.
However, I caution you to talk to me about communication.
The reality is someone went public with false information. It caused a great deal of headache and false rumor starting on our side. I can guarantee you none of us will publish
anything remotely close about the OTHER pilot group unless
their own people have done it first.
Professional courtesy...it would have been nice.
So, hopefully - for the last time - that clears the drama of a MEC Chair saying something prematurely all up and you folks can move on.
PBS debate - go have that with your status reps, JNC, and scheduling folks.
Happy New Year!