This is all good discussion but I'd be willing to bet my career at Comair (oh wait, never mind...that'll be gone soon) that the militant "full-pay-to-the-last-day" faction will gladly crusade on boards like this but those who buy into the company rhetoric and are afraid to take a stand keep their mouths shut until after said votes occur, at which point they will claim that no way in hay-all would they agree to concessions. This is what happened at Clownair. 51-49 in favor of concessions in bankruptcy and yet nobody I ever fly with ever seems to admit they voted yes. When we are down to 44 aircraft this summer, there will still be the "51ers" that can't replace $104/hr in a tough economy with nothing but a H.S. diploma and a 6,000 sq ft home in Northern Kentucky or Orlando or wherever.

I feel for the Pinnacle brethren. Just don't think what's happening to you is occurring in a vacuum. Listen to what Boomer is saying because I can corroborate all of it.