BElly, it used to happen more back in the day before skydiving became a yuppie sport and was more sport death. and it sometimes involved an asskickin after but it was all in good fun. And you didn't do it to just any new pilot you had to do it to somebody you could trust to get the plane back or no jumpy the rest of the day. ill admit its horrible on the engine but most skydivers are retards as soon as the put there rig on..me included... Today most jumpers don't ever ride in a piston banger or get out under 10k. what a sad state of affairs our sport has become. Damn im getting old, but it beats the alternative