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Old 01-12-2012 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Call the MEC Treasurer. Ask him how they compute the average.

Ask him what set of data that they use, and if any of the data is removed...specifically, if any lines below a certain value are excluded from the average.

If you eliminate all of the lines that are less than, say, 70 hours, you'd be surprised how the average changes, especially when a LOT of lines that PBS generates are less than 70.

Nu
Previously, Alfa claimed when questioned that 87 hours is the "average pay per month " of the garden variety line pilot. Now, we all know out here on the line, things are different from the Skittle skies and rainbows that have "an 87 hour average" pot of gold every month for every line pilot fantasy.

So, the BS flag was raised and Alfa claimed that those who question this notion that 87 hours is indeed the average pay per month did not have the facts. Ok. Let's look at the facts.



NuGuy asked this in post 7155:
Is it, or is it not, true that schedules less than 70 hours are deleted when considering what is "average" when computing the number to pay FPL people?

That would go a LONG way in explaining why everyone I know is getting 68 hour lines from PBS, yet the "average" pay for FPL purposes is 87 hours.

If true, the real way to make a dent in the FPL pay is to change the policy manual to take into consideration all lines down to 60 hours, versus 70.

Nu


Well, here we have it. Straight from section 10.C.3


3. The MEC treasurer will periodically (but at least annually) determine the average
pay hours for regular line holders (computed average), which shall be approved
by the DAL MEC. This average will be used to determine the computed average
rate for full-time and part-time compensation. At every regularly scheduled MEC
meeting, the MEC treasurer will provide the MEC with the computed average rate
and the methodology used to determine the computed average rate

So, the MEC treasurer determines the "computed average."

What methodology is used by the treasurer to come to the "computed average?" What is the definition of "regular line holder?" Does this exclude those on reserve? In training? Only regular line holders in a short staffed category? Only regular line holders in only the months of June, July and August?

How can the line pilot, or rather DALPA's customers see how this determination and methodology was made by the treasurer? I see that it is made available to the MEC. How about making it available for all pilots to see anytime it is changed.

Point is, the process couldn't be any more opaque or be definition easier to manipulte to get and support any given number.


Last edited by TheManager; 01-12-2012 at 07:39 PM.