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Old 01-19-2012 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by p3flteng
Every category will be slightly different, why dont we settle down and see how it all shakes out for a month or two before we burn the house down. I am for injecting some seniority into the process, not at the point that the tops works zero and the botto works it all, but gentlemen....
We live in a seniority world......
I don't disagree and I know its category contingent, but if I see a 80 raw score threshold for bucket 1 then I will complain and complain and complain (like a senior pilot would ) until something is done to lower it.

Originally Posted by hoserpilot
I don't get it. Weren't we asking for seniority ranking for reserve? Now that we have it we don't like it? I'm an atl88b line holder that chooses to bid reserve. I like having superbowl and xmas off. With this new system, senior pilots may choose to bid reserve. This may leave a couple more weekends available for less senior line holders. Seems like we got what we wanted. What am I missing here?
Me too, here's the deal as I see it.

On a domestic NB the guy sitting at 50% will now be a new plug instead of just Mr. 50%.

Here's why. We both know that the way they cover weekends means that if you touch a weekend you fly. In fact on the 88 there were times there were 80 guys on reserve on Monday but they put out GSs the day before in clear weather.
So if it takes 50% to hold weekends off then come Monday the guy at 50% is #1 to fly. Thats the same as it is now, except whereas Mr. 50% would've flown and waited 2 or so weeks to fly again. But now Mr. 50% is now constantly Mr. Next for a minimum of 2 weeks and more than likely 3 weeks out of a 4 week month.
So 50% is the new plug in our system except even the plug got a reprieve as they worked.
Now work that up, 45% is now like being 90%, 40% is like being 80%, and so on until 20% on the reserve list is not like being 20% but rather 40%.
This isn't a loss of QOL for junior pilots as they fly a lot anyways, this hits the pilots in the middle to top pretty hard that had some QOL. Hence, its interjecting seniority but ironically taking it away from a large percentage of senior pilots. That's why I don't like it, it gives to a few that already had a tremendous QOL and probably won't see a difference and takes from those who had a QOL.

That's how I see it unfolding if bucket #1 is as large as 80 points. We've added seniority for a few and taken it from so many more.
Of course, it's my opinion but I've bid down to reserve now for 3 years now and I've had a pretty good QOL and pretty familiar with our current system. Needless to say that's ending for me and many around above and below me if those buckets are that large.

Last edited by forgot to bid; 01-19-2012 at 03:52 PM.