Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Yes, but there are published hold downs on the STAR's and we all know that the AIM is well, guidance. I have been cleared to 350 out of there and queried about the hold down, and they emphatically stated they wanted us to follow the published altitudes on the STAR.
SLC is the airport he flew out of and for that reason, I stated what I did. We have seen a bunch of issues with just that out of SLC. That is why out of there, I always ask.
I know it happens all the time in SLC, but the controllers are actually following the correct procedures - the AIM is not giving bad information here.
They even give an example-
EXAMPLE-
1. A departure flight receives a clearance to destination airport to maintain FL 290. The clearance incorporates a DP which has certain altitude crossing restrictions. Shortly after takeoff, the flight receives a new clearance changing the maintaining FL from 290 to 250.
If the altitude restrictions are still applicable, the controller restates them.
Seriously, If they want you to obey the hold downs, then they need to specifically restate them when they issue you a new altitude clearance.
Again, if you're not sure, ask - but this is standard ATC stuff so it's no wonder that the controllers might be a bit put off by pilots always asking them for clarification.