Originally Posted by
hockeypilot44
I always get confused at SLC. I know the rules. They clear you via a SID, the PDC usually says "maintain 230kts." You look at the chart and it says to cross the first fix at 230kts. It then tells you to cross another fix at 250kts. This is confusing to me. Am I suppose to just maintain 230kts until advised or fly the SID as published? These are not expect clearances on the SID. In reality, as soon as you take off, you get a "climb and maintain FL_00, delete speed restrictions." SLC is confusing. It should not be. It's just asking for someone to get violated from being confused.
Spot on... SLC needs to be fixed and bad, as has been previously illustrated here. The reason why there are numerous problems with people asking as well as violations there is because the terminology is horrible. Fix the terminology and you fix the problem. There is nothing wrong with adding a few words to save a mountain of problems and confusion... like how ATL does the "RNAV to FUTBOL, cleared for takeoff 27R." The 3 "words" added to the front of that phrase fixed a lot of previous problems.
Oh, and more inefficiencies- DTW has decided to thin out their type 1 fluid, so they apply type IV to all applications to "help with holdover times." They do it even when there is no active frozen precip. We tried 4 times to explain it to them today and they had no clue that spraying 1000 dollars worth of type IV on an airplane when it's sunny does nothing because there is no holdover time. The only response was "we have to spray the type IV."