Originally Posted by gloopy

It does pass the "make sense test". But when you ask, even though you don't have to because it makes sense, and you get a contradictory response from ATC 1 or 2 times out of 10 (more like 2 or 3 times out of 10 in SLC) then it warrants a free 5 second querry. Every single time.



Exactly. "Resume Normal Speed" in those situations means nothing. Clarification is required because you know that ATC is incorrect on the phraseology or at the very least unsure about what's going on or being asked. So you get clarification. If they give you a "climb and maintain" and you waste a query only to be told 8 or 9 times out of 10 "um, yeah, duh! what else can it mean you big dummy!" then you might not win the top gun trophy for the day, but at least you'll graduate. During those 1 or 2 times out of 10 that you query a "climb/descend and maintain" where there are charted altitudes and you uncover a difference of expectations, that more than makes up for the other 8 or 9 wasted free 5 second radio calls.

Even if we fixed this issue 100% today with never another misunderstanding on either to come up, its reasonable to still be cautious for a while and ask anyway because there is no way to tell if the issue was fixed 100% until you get 100% correct responses for a while. So far, on either "climb/descend and maintain" with crossing restrictions and/or "resume normal speed" with charted speed restrictions, I'm still trapping way too many errors by asking to stop asking so therefore I will keep asking. Its as simple as that.