Originally Posted by
Free Bird
Many folks that I fly with believe that we left some low hanging fruit on the tree with LOA 19 and the Joint contract. Yes, the merger would of happened anyways, we all realize that. What would not of happened however is the mess that is our scope clause. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 255 70 seat RJ's would not of been allowed under our previous PWA. The Alaska codeshare would not of been allowed. No?
Instead of a 255 limit, the allowed number under the separate NWA and Delta contracts would have been 345. That's right, the JCBA
reduced the allowable outsourcing compared to the separate pre-merger contracts.
The Alaska codeshare was already in the NWA CBA. The DAL PWA had allowances for Alaska also, but it was about 10% the size of the NWA piece. So not only was it (AS codeshare)allowed, it was feeding the NWA SEA pilot base. Since the JCBA the SEA pilot base has doubled in size.
Originally Posted by
Free Bird
Other folks think that for our cooperation and sacrifices we should of gotten more pay up front. I can't argue with that either. Our leverage, was that they needed us to get this merger done right (scope, codeshare allowances) and we gave those allowances for minimal pay increases and we still allowed more outsourcing.
Those "minimal pay increases" totaled $100 million this year, and a nearly $400 million annual total since the merger. Add in over 49 million shares of stock.
So show me who got more pay up front. Better yet, show me somebody who got ANY pay up front.
I provide this little historical retrospective for situational awareness. It's the facts. You're free to have a different opinion, but lets at least start the discussion from where we actually were and where we actually are.
I want more. In the post bankruptcy era the traditional way to more hasn't worked for USAPA, UAL/CAL, AMR, or even FedEx. What's the definition of insanity again?