Barring another merger, and management's need for our cooperation in some fashion.. what kind of leverage is it that you think will gain us anything north of 20%? Which brings up an interesting question: Since you and many of the other DALPA bashers think that "constructive engagement" is a waste of time, do you think that standing with arms akimbo and telling management that if they don't give us C2K ++ that we won't cooperate in any alleged merger will get us that? Really?